, and one of the main attack points na romney is making against obama and romney would put that 716 billion dollars back. but, you can be sure that biden is going to say, well in your own budget you were taking the 716 out. so he's going to try to paint, you're exactly right, peter, paint romney with some of ryan's positions not to say they were extreme, but more conservative and more hide line. >> chris, tell us what's coming up on your show today. >> we will have our own debate, alisyn. we are going to have two interesting figures, martin o'mally the governor of maryland and a lot of people think win or lose for obama, a possible presidential candidate for the democrats in 2016 against kelly ayotte, one of the rising stars in the republican party, the senator from the key swing state of new hampshire, and then we're going to have a debate guru, bret o'donnell, may not have heard of him, but seen his work, one of the campaign debate coaches for 2004 and mccain in 2008. and mitt romney before the florida primary, florida debate, obliterated newt gingrich and we'll get him to give tricks of